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suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 03:35 PM) maybe they are ghost candles
midwinter : (28 May 2017 - 04:01 PM) let's just say mafuyu has a very busy afterlife
suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 04:03 PM) lighting candles? i wonder what the work hours are
Rezz : (28 May 2017 - 04:07 PM) I mean, he is basically a housewife at this point
suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 04:10 PM) i was under the impression being a ghost gave you the freedom to do whatever you please
midwinter : (28 May 2017 - 04:19 PM) what part of the fatal frame series gave you that idea
Rezz : (28 May 2017 - 04:21 PM) Most of the ghosts seem pretty badly chained to their previous lives and locations  :thinking:
suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 04:23 PM) mid the part where the ghosts seem to wonder around
midwinter : (28 May 2017 - 04:24 PM) they wander around doing exactly what they were doing on the day they died
midwinter : (28 May 2017 - 04:26 PM) if they could do whatever they wanted, don't you think they'd mix it up a little
Rezz : (28 May 2017 - 04:29 PM) No, no, he said they wonder around, not wander. They wonder what their lives would be like if they weren't victims of circumstance, I'm sure.
suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 04:51 PM) rezz that too
suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 05:58 PM) is it wierd i can imagine kirie sending mafuyu down to the store for stuff
Eisenalex : (28 May 2017 - 08:59 PM) maybe that's just what all of them want to do, repeat what they did when they died. maybe dying and becoming a ghost makes you boring like that.
Eisenalex : (28 May 2017 - 09:00 PM) i don't know, I haven't died yet.
suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 09:00 PM) god i hope not
suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 09:01 PM) if i were like that as a ghost i'd want someone to kill me again
Eisenalex : (28 May 2017 - 09:03 PM) so you do ghosts a favour by exorcizing them with the camera obscura!
suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 09:04 PM) for some of them i would say yes
suprimeking : (28 May 2017 - 09:06 PM) the ones in torment i'd say it's a sweet release

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#1 OFFLINE   midwinter

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 11:36 AM

If you're on Facebook, you might have seen this page, which describes itself as the "Official Fatal Frame fan page". I posted about them before in 2013, when they were claiming that a sequel to FF3 called Fatal Frame: Kurushime was being developed. They got called out on it, claimed they'd been hacked, and went quiet for a bit, but lately they've been posting again, so I thought it was time for a recap.

This page has been making false claims since 2011. Occasionally they manage to post something that's true, to give themselves more credibility, but the vast majority of what they post is crap. Their pattern is pretty repetitive - they'll claim there's a new game in the works, or a remake, or an HD remaster, or a movie. They might even give a release date, usually a few months in the future, because they assume no one will bother to check back later. They talk about Fatal Frame games getting released for PS3, PS4, Xbox One and PC, because they know it's what people want to hear and it gets them likes. They go back and forth about whether they're official or unofficial, and often hedge by saying things "might be possible" etc while still getting people's hopes up. They run "contests" where they say you can win products that don't exist, usually in return for liking their page or leaving your full name. From what I've seen, I don't think they're actually trying to get money or data, just page likes, but since they're constantly lying about everything, I wouldn't trust them if I were you.

If you want a laugh, check out their really terrible fanfic.

- Here's where they claim there's a "standard edition" of FF5 outside Japan, not the Limited Edition or digital download.
- Here, here, here and here they use the erroneous, unofficial title "Oracle of the Sodden Raven", which was created by someone at NicoVideo, not anyone involved with Tecmo or Nintendo.
- This one also talks about an "English patch" rather than an English translation.
- Here they claimed in April 2015 that Kadokawa would be releasing an English dub of Gekijoban Zero. Obviously, this hasn't happened.
- Here they claimed FF5 would be released in the US in June 2015. The actual release date was October 2015.
- Here and here they use another fan-created title, Fatal Frame V: Black Haired Shrine Maiden. On the first one they also credit a nonexistent artist on a nonexistent Tecmo project for creating a screenshot.
- Ever since the Kurushime days, they've been saying there might be HD remasters and releases for the PlayStation or Xbox (see here, here, here, here, here), which is guaranteed to get fans fawning over them but not at all likely to happen.
- They've mostly learned their lesson and stopped using fan-created art for self-promotion, but not entirely. In 2014 they used this wallpaper by SailorTrekkie92 on DeviantArt. Here, in 2013, they used this PS3 cover mockup by Inochi-PM on DeviantArt.
- Here they link to the Fatal Frame Wikia as a source for their information. Why would an official site need to link to an unofficial fan project again?
- Here they claim they're an unofficial page run by something called "ScrollTeam". ScrollTeam's Facebook is no longer visible, and the only thing that comes up when I google them is this account, which may or may not be related.
- Here's where they admit the Kurushime thing was a scam while still attempting to pass the page itself off as genuine. "Someone hacked into our page and posted misinformation! Please bear with us while our new page management returns to a regular schedule of posting misinformation."
- They deleted a lot of the stuff about Kurushime from their page, but some remains here.
- Here's the post about that nonexistent novel. If anyone's curious, the Japanese text down the side is "Project Zero's Final Novel". "Project Zero" is written in katakana for some reason - probably because that's what comes up when you try to translate "Project Zero" into Japanese using Google Translate.
- Here's where they promote a charity that doesn't exist, claiming that page likes will somehow result in charitable donations to "Acumba, Africa" (which is unknown to Google, almost as if that doesn't exist either - mysterious!) and Inner Asia.
- Oh, this is good. Here's a post where they link to their site under construction. That site still exists and still links to BCL's old URL. I mean, I think BCL is awesome, but it's not official, and I wouldn't expect anyone working for Tecmo or Nintendo to link to us.
- Here and here they talk about a "Remake Wii Edition" that might also be a "Sequel 1 and 2" or "Fatal Frame: The Game" or possibly all of the above, and might be announced or released on 4th June 2012. I guess this is referring to DCB, which was released on 28/29th June 2012, but as usual they have to add their own incoherent embellishments.
- Here's a post where they say people can win a special limited edition US version of Fatal Frame 4. As we know, there is no such thing.
- Here's a post from 2011 where they claimed that Keisuke Kikuchi was producing not one but TWO Fatal Frame movies. Wonder what happened to those.
- Here's where they claimed a "Fatal Frame Remake" would be released on 20 July 2011. Charitably assuming they mean DCB, they're only wrong by about a year...
- Here back in 2011 they were claiming a double release of FF4 and FF5 worldwide. By FF5 they mean DCB, as seen here, not Maiden of Black Water.
- Another nonexistent Fatal Frame with a nonsense title.
- Here and here are a bizarre couple of posts where they claim you can download FF2 and FF4 for free.
- Here they link to the FF4 patch. No official site for a real gaming company would ever promote any kind of third-party mod that requires hacking your console. Seriously.
- Here, back in 2011, they claimed there would be a new "Add-On Pack for Fatal Frame 3" released in July.


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#2 OFFLINE   Eisenalex

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 12:32 PM

Looks like they're also hiring at the moment.
 

We are hiring. Are you interested?
[...]

- Story teller, author, writer (Amateurs are also eligible for hire)
[...]


...and they even hire amateurs to work on official Fatal Frame releases. Lol, isn't that awfully nice?


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#3 OFFLINE   midwinter

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 12:51 PM

Haha, right? I'm sure it's hard to find qualified people willing to work on video games - such an obscure and unglamorous industry, not the kind of thing people dream about doing professionally from early childhood or anything. And professional writers desperate for work are incredibly rare!



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Posted 26 February 2017 - 01:48 PM

Well, they've already proven with their fanfic that they can't write themselves so an amateur's work would potentially be a huge step forward.
(The thing is: it looks like they were going for something like "Floyd's Tomb", the literature equivalent of a found footage movie, which could potentially work for FF, just executed so poorly that it looks like they didn't even try.)

I can't even be mad at this site. Their stuff is hilariously bad - especially that "プロジェクトゼロ" book cover - and as long as people don't send them their personal information (although that could be the case with people trying to get hired by them) they don't seem to do much harm.


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#5 OFFLINE   Daniele199

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 12:03 AM

Damn, so is that a fake page?

And I thought that it was the Official page of Project Zero... ç_ç



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Posted 23 April 2017 - 02:42 PM

Yeah, I'm afraid so. It's too bad there's no single official hub for news about the whole series! I've always wanted one, but they just give individual games their own websites. So far there hasn't been much social media presence, either, except for the movie; the games are all just bundled into the main Nintendo accounts with everything else.







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