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midwinter : (14 June 2018 - 10:10 PM) all the rumours and stuff from the thread in the Fatal Frame News forum
midwinter : (14 June 2018 - 11:01 PM) Mr Johnny> I dunno what to say, dude. I'm sure no one wants you to feel tortured. But people shouldn't pretend to believe claims that sound really unlikely just because you're invested in it, either
midwinter : (14 June 2018 - 11:01 PM) I guess just... try not to take things so personally. It's not a reflection on you if people have doubts, it's just common sense
Chou : (15 June 2018 - 02:57 PM) No one is personally attacking you over the rumors, we just have doubts as there's been no other news and no other sources reporting anything
Mr Johnny : (18 June 2018 - 02:09 AM) I know folks I Very much know but it is my strange habbit to open up to strangers
Mr Johnny : (18 June 2018 - 02:11 AM) and I know Very much no one is attacking me I am not a baka but as I said the events of these past years was harsh to me
Mr Johnny : (18 June 2018 - 02:13 AM) even my Zodiac sign feature this strange habit,
Mr Johnny : (18 June 2018 - 02:16 AM) I just wanted to spend my Holiday with you guy and don't understand you as a whole the reason of my struggles cause you never was EVER!!! P.s "baka" is not my intended word, obv.
Mr Johnny : (18 June 2018 - 02:25 AM) I did't intend to make melodrama it is in your codswalloping mind. What a naive thinking.
midwinter : (18 June 2018 - 03:43 PM) Okay, enough. This isn't going anywhere helpful so just drop it, please
midwinter : (18 June 2018 - 04:03 PM) I've been thinking about the FF4 anniversary next month - would anyone be interested in a little drabble/paint art fest or something?
midwinter : (18 June 2018 - 04:03 PM) Nothing big, I just feel bad that we always seem to miss celebrating anniversaries
TomoChan : (18 June 2018 - 11:38 PM) I would be interested! I actually started drawing a picture of the FF4 cast for the anniversary :P hard to believe it's ten years old.
Chou : (19 June 2018 - 06:28 PM) I haven't drawn in foooorever but I'd try and join!
midwinter : (19 June 2018 - 07:02 PM) \o/
midwinter : (19 June 2018 - 07:03 PM) anyone else reading, CONSIDER THIS YOUR PEER PRESSURE
Chou : (19 June 2018 - 07:15 PM) Yeeessss! The spiritual power of all the  ghosts demand you all join!
Chou : (19 June 2018 - 07:16 PM) and hopefully by that point I've finished the game lol
midwinter : (19 June 2018 - 09:31 PM) i'm cheering for you!
Chou : (20 June 2018 - 01:36 PM) \o/ !!! I can't believe it's been 10 years since the game... 8 years since the patch was completed. Craziness!

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Fatal Frame V Localization Speculation

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#1 OFFLINE   Emi

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 04:46 PM

Does anyone think the European / US releases are going to be censored storyline wise? 

 

I sincerely HOPE not, but man... there are some things I know they are BOUND to notice and think twice on.. >.>



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 06:13 PM

I've been thinking about this so much, I'm glad it's brought up on forums too.
I know it's spoilers section, but I'll put this in spoiler box just in case some poor soul who doesn't want to get spoiled gets lost in here anyway.

Considering how eu and na really like to filter things, especially concerning stuff like implied incest, implied minor's rape etc etc., I wouldn't be too surprised. We've seen a whole games getting banned, such as Rule of Rose that went through lot of drama cause of it's implied child's sexual and non sexual abuse.

Eu and na publishers don't often hestitate to change the game, like even Miku's model in first game, just to make it "more fitting" for western audience. However, it is true as well that nowdays that kind of changes aren't made as often and the bar for censoring too has lowered considerably.

But if they'll choose to filter... I'm just trying to go over and over on how are they going to do that?
Especially on Miku's case where her whole plot in the game is implied incest case (emphase on word implied, since it is rather controversial topic).

Also on side note I really have my hopes on them censoring or deleting the awful, sexist and degrading sex lingerie costumes for Yuuri and Miu, but then again, looking at Fatal Frame's history it's not an impossible nor irrational wish.
 


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#3 OFFLINE   Kenshin 4

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 08:28 PM

I don't think they will change anything.

Look at Bayonetta 1 & 2 or Devils Third.

I know that they consored Bravely Default but Fatal Frame is diffrent because it is a horror game and changing anything will affect the story.

Edit : About the costumes i really hope they delete them and add more Nintendo related Costumes( i would like to see Yurii in Princess Peach Costume

Edited by Kenshin 4, 17 June 2015 - 08:31 PM.

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 11:43 PM

doh! hit the back button accidently.

 

Eiko> yes. I agree that several of the costume are considerably inappropriate and sexist (Hex, Homuranagi and I were talking about it in the chat box earlier). I think some effort in game mechanics COULD have been placed elsewhere. 

 

So, even though I normally am a champion of NOTHING being changed... I really would not mind nor care if certain costumes did not make it into the game. :P

 

As for the main elephant in the room... maybe they'll change it to the OTHER individual?

I forget who told me but it was Mid or Homuranagi who mentioned Kei was another person considered as Miu's father... perhaps they will change the one scene? Or delete it? Or even change settings so we never see who she actually marries? :P



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Posted 18 June 2015 - 02:50 PM

I've been pondering some of the questions myself for example:

 

Miu's bikini scene,the implied incest,and some words like yomi,yuukon,and the Fuyuhi like love letters about Haruka. and Emi yeah in an interview they said they were going to say Kei was Miu's father,or a random man. It's in the guidebook I think.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 03:46 PM

I'm not really sure actually, there's implied incest all over Fatal Frame 2 but the only censorship that ever got was the removal of bikinis in DCB. I suppose it's not as explicitly stated in FF2 but the symbolism and undertones are pretty clear, so I doubt they'll censor that aspect.

Meanwhile I'm certain they'll remove the bikinis and potentially the redundant Miu bikini scene, at least in the EU (I'm not sure how NoA is with censorship), which is all good with me. Another possibility is the aging up of characters in official media to avoid any controversy.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 06:00 PM

I question implied incest in Fatal Frame II, it is almost like saying there was implied incest in Fatal Frame I. (Although I will admit you could argue the case stronger in Fatal Frame ii than I) 

 

There is straight up incest in Fatal Frame IV... and Fatal Frame V STRONGLY if not actively implies it.

 

Miku and Mafuyu's relationship definitely was ... told in such a way in Fatal Frame V that incest was obvious.  Although I question fans who say "Oh! I totally KNEW they 'loved' each other in FFI or FFIII.   Obviously, Fatal Frame II suffered from a lot of (especially by zealous fans) concieved twincest. With the idea that twins were one soul and the ritual returned them to that one soul. With Fatal Frame IV, like with Fatal Frame V, we have characters that are shown as the offspring of an incestual relationship. With Fatal Frame II, you still don't have a conclusive confirmed thing there. So I don't think it is the same from and editing prospect FFII versus FFV. Plausible deniability.



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 12:56 PM

I've been wondering about all of this as well. I just figured since it will probably be labeled a mature game with all the blood and gore in it they might actually leave most of it uncensored. After watching the treehouse presentation at E3 i'm thinking they might even leave the bikinis in because they talked about how there are all these extra costumes to unlock but this game doesnt have many to begin with. I'm hoping that maybe they'll have added some more but i'm not holding my breath.

Honestly, if they do change Miu'sfather to Kei I would be ok with it but what are they then going to do about the scenes with Miku and Mafuyu in them? Just say thats its Kei and pretend we don't notice it'sactually Mafuyu or would they actually change the render?

Edited by MacabrelleEnvy, 22 June 2015 - 12:58 PM.






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