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How to phonetically correct reads Mayu japanese name "天倉 繭"?

Fatal Frame II Mayu Amakura Localization Translation

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#1 OFFLINE   Metafalica

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 06:12 AM

I were playing in japanese version of fatal frame 2 and noticed that Mio says something way too different from "Mayu" when were calling her. My ears can't figure out the correct sound of her name.



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Posted 18 April 2015 - 06:27 AM

She calls her "onee-chan", which just means "older sister". Mayu's name is still Mayu. :)

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:02 AM

Oh, huh >_<

What a weird way to talk with her own sister...



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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:15 AM

Heh, it might seem that way if you're not used to it, but in Japanese that's just the normal form of address for an elder sibling, like calling your parents mum and dad in English instead of using their names. In the Japanese versions Miku calls Mafuyu "onii-san" (older brother) as well, and if you listen to Japanese shows or games in the original language you'll hear it a lot; it's not like a weird thing that only Mio does.



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Posted 18 April 2015 - 10:37 AM

Right, and they did that purposely to add another element to the story.

In the game it appears that the older sister kills the younger. In Minakami village, however, the first born twin is considered the younger since the stronger twin let them be born first. So you are supposed to go through the game believing Mayu will kill you at the end but then you actually kill her.



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Posted 18 April 2015 - 01:01 PM

Got it.

Ok, since we came to older / younger theme, could you also answer me on this...

I am translating the game into my native language and run into some weird contradiction in the text:

 

This phrases are said by someone (most likely by Sae):

Yae... Just give up...

We who are the first to draw breath...

We are destined to live as Remainings...

 

And I find this very very weird! This means that the one who born first ("first to draw breath") must live as Remaining... but... in Minakami village the older is the one who born last and she must live as Remaining.

 

 

So... What should I do with this contradiction?

I have two options:

1. Fix the phrase about "first to draw breath" to be "last to draw breath".

2. Leave things as they are.

 

What you think? Maybe I just don't understand something?


Edited by Metafalica, 18 April 2015 - 01:02 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 04:23 PM

It's from Ryokan's spirit stone, not Sae, so it makes more sense in terms of the Remaining thing but, yes, it is wrong. This is one of the weird cases where neither localisation hits the nail on the head; the original one kind of dodges around it, kind of gets it wrong, and the newer one is just wrong altogether. The original text reads more like, "We, who are the latter to be given life, must live on as a Remaining..." (More literally it says "we who are given life afterwards", but that just sounds weird. Basically yes, it's just saying that they are the second of the two to be born.)

 

Since it's the localisation(s) in the wrong rather than the game, it sounds like a good idea to fix it.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 04:33 PM

Got it. Thank you, then I will fix it in my translation.







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