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[Kaelin]

Maybe I'm just missing something and maybe I'll make a fool of myself~ I don't know if this is in any books or has been explained/asked before but is there any actual solid story about what happened to Mafuyu after Kirie got him in the beginning of the game?

I haven't touched the game in a little while but after the intro, Miku is like "it's been 2 weeks since...". 2 weeks is a long time for Mafuyu to be in the mansion alone no? He's also camera-less and yet he's still wondering around the mansion as a living entity or a ghost? at the point where you first encounter long arms. Did he run from all the hostile ghosts or did Kirie protect him. Why was he free to wonder in the first place and just what did he do in his time there.

This might also be a good time to ask why long arms and Mafuyu didn't collide during that cutscene. Did long arms possess the ability to create illusions and used Mafuyu as "bate" so to speak. As we know he snatched away the kids. I also recall the possible time warping in the game which I think was explained in one of the notes left by Mafuyu. I imagine a lot of this would've been explained had the side quests been left in but jeez. My brain Dx

If you have any word on this or speculation I'd like to read them.

Thanks :D

[Homuranagi]

IIRC the explanation was that since he looked so much like Kirie's lover she protected him and led him to her so they could be together - so it was basically complete luck that she didn't just curse him on the spot. If he'd had a haircut the day before he set off he might have been dead by the time Miku got there. The only real explanation we get for the time after this is that he was wandering around, being led by her towards the Hell Gate, and that Miku could see him due to the time loop. I don't think they do go into any more detail, really? I'm pretty sure he was still alive at that point, though.

[Emi]

I remember ages back we had a topic similar, and someone proposed a rather brilliant theory of mafuyu and mike being trapped in sort of two different time realities. I liked the idea of time working differently for mafuyu, and it did a great job of the idea that mafuyu was appearing ghostlike to miku as she was appearing ghostlike to him.

[Magamdy]

I remember ages back we had a topic similar, and someone proposed a rather brilliant theory of mafuyu and mike being trapped in sort of two different time realities. I liked the idea of time working differently for mafuyu, and it did a great job of the idea that mafuyu was appearing ghostlike to miku as she was appearing ghostlike to him.

 

Mike Hinasaki:

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[Kaelin]

By the end of the game is Mafuyu already dead (before the cave-in)? or is that unknown. :I I can't imagine him sitting around in a cave for 2 weeks doing nothing at all. I would like to think he did something in the mansion after he was caught. Something along the lines of waking up in a room, sort've like night 2, and progressing through some of the rooms give or take a puzzle. Because Kirie mistakes him for her loved one I can't really see her just locking him away, you know?

 

But thanks for the info :)

 

Many laughs later...

I feel like this could be a fun game :I the creation of Mike.

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[Hex]

He's alive for the whole two weeks.  Don't forget, Miku sees Mafuyu exploring the mansion the deeper she goes, and he writes whatever he pieces together about Kirie, Takamine's Group, the Munakatas, even Blinded.  He wasn't trapped outside the Hell Gate for a fortnight (though the image is kind of hilarious), but getting there without the camera probably took him the same amount of time.

 

And I think people have been accidentally calling Miku "Mike" since the release.  Poor thing.  c:

[Kaelin]

I see I see. Yeah I just couldn't see him sitting around doing next to nothing in his time there. He did mention in one of his notes (I think) that if you walk and are quiet then Blinded won't attack but then if he's having to sneak by Blinded, then Kirie can't be protecting him, at least not all the time. Which I guess makes sense because Kirie goes after Miku every now and then.

 

But I guess that's all we know at this point? He was there, he did something probably along the lines of take and run, and he got to the end o.o. I like to think it's somewhat along the lines of Kei's gameplay with the hiding. Makes for an interesting side game... it's just a shame they didn't expand on it and scrapped a bunch.

[Kaelin]

Yeah it is amazing but I guess with all the help quite a lot of it was a walk in the park. I think it would probably be possible for Miku, too, give or take a required boss fight (Headless Priest for example) but in Mafuyu's case I guess they would be afraid of or listen to Kirie. There are many problems I feel because the same items are needed for Miku to get there. The only real explaination is this time loop/warp, which might also explain that Angry Mask "bug". But I don't want to apply time to everything that's questionable xD.

 

When I think about how there are 2 Kirie spirits... there must be more than one instance of time in the mansion? possibly depending on the day of the week/month. If that was the case then I imagine things would've played out a lot differently for Mafuyu than they did for Miku. He might've even encountered something entirly different and new.

 

But I guess that's all I wanted to know. If there was anything documented about what he did, the items he obtained and the areas he certainly did visit (besides what we know from cutscenes).

 

Here's me wishing PZ had the zapping system :P